ARE THE BC LITIGANT COUPLES GET MARRIED?


Several couples got hitched! First, Elizabeth and Dawn Barbeau were married in Toronto June 21 2003. Then Jane Eaton Hamilton and Joy Masuhara wed in a double ceremony with Tanya and Melinda Chambers Roy June 28 2003 in Toronto. Jane and Joy held their wedding and reception August 9 2003, and Tanya and Melinda held theirs September 6 2003. Tess Healy and Wendy Young were married Aug 31, 2003, Pride weekend in Prince George, BC,

Lloyd Thornhill and Bob Peacock; Robin Roberts and Diana Denny; and Murray and Peter Corren all married in the summer of 2004. Jane and Joy attended all the weddings except Dawn and Elizabeth's and Tess and Wendy's, and they were all terrific. Stay tuned for pictures in the wedding galleries at www.queermarriage.com.


I'M GAY AND LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. CAN I GET MARRIED IN CANADA? WILL IT BE LEGAL WHERE I LIVE?

Yes, you can get married anywhere it's legal here-hopefully before long, that will be everywhere. If you have had a divorce in any other country and want to marry in Ontario, there are special foreign divorce requirements you need to meet. There are no residency requirements anywhere in Canada to marry, but there are to divorce. It may be that you will have a legal marriage, but no possibility of divorce.

Your gay marriage here is probably technically legal everywhere else, but having it recognized as such is another matter. Most countries have reciprocal international treaties recognizing each other's marriages, but many countries will expressly restrict recognizing queer marriages.

People are marrying here and taking their own governments to court for that recognition.

For specifics on marriage in Canada, google 'Vital Statistics' for the province you want to marry in, which will bring up the specific provincial requirements.

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF MARRIAGE IN CANADA?


Responsibility for marriage is divided between the federal and provincial governments. The federal government determines the definition of marriage, meaning who can marry whom, while the provinces issue marriage licenses and determine the requirements of the marriage ceremony.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT POLITICAL STATUS IN CANADA FOR SAME-SEX MARRIAGE?


As of June 2004, the situation is mostly good. In short, the Supreme Court of Canada gave same-sex marriage the go-ahead, and now the federal government has introduced Bill C-38 into the House of Commons for debate. If it passes, ssm will be legal everywhere in the country; if not, only the provinces with successful court cases will continue.


Justices in 7 provinces and 1 territory overturned the federal bar to same-sex marriage and rewrote the judge-written law, which once stated marriage as between “one man and one woman” as now being between “two persons”. This should have applied across the country, being a federal law changed as of June 10 2003. However, some provinces and territories have balked. It is probably illegal for couples to be denied marriage licences anywhere across the country. The federal government, after fighting against us so hard, capitulated. First they said they wouldn’t appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. Then they sent the Supreme Court what’s called a “reference”—essentially asking their legal opinion on the legislation the government has decided to draft, which came back all positive for our side.

But they backtracked a little by agreeing to let Members of Parliament vote on C-38 not according to party lines but according to their consciences. This is called a “free vote.” Justice Minister Irwin Cotler has been saying we can’t have a country-wide referendum on this issue because that amounts to the majority deciding on minority rights, but his party is still allowing a free vote on minority rights.

CAN'T WE JUST HAVE RDPs?

Registered Domestic Partnerships are a provincial solution--and not a very good one--to a federal jurisdictional question. The only provinces in Canada which currently have RDPs are Nova Scotia and Quebec. Under RDPs, couples-- gay, but preferably also straight--may go to City Hall to register their unions. But they still won’t have all the benefits of marriage--in fact, in Nova Scotia they still don’t have as many rights as common-law queer couples already have in BC without RDPs.


Although RDPs may have their place as a choice for straight and gay couples who want to avoid marriage, and though they may increase same-sex couple benefits in jurisdictions where there are none or few, overall they are bad news. They are being used as a method to stifle same-sex couples who want equal marriage rights. These "marriage lites" entrench differences between heterosexual and homosexual unions. In these regimes, hets have their choice: RDP or marriage. Queers do not. Queers can't marry. Except some churches do marry queers, so there would still be married queers if the government goes that route, and a lot of pissed off atheists.


Think of all the times that communities have said, Well, we'll stop all proclamations rather than proclaim Gay Pride, or that libraries have said, Well, we'll get rid of all our community newspapers so we don't have to carry gay ones.


U nlike federal marriages, RDPs or civil unions wouldn't be portable from one jurisdiction to another. (A couple registering their union in Nova Scotia couldn't move that registration to Saskatchewan, for instance.) They would never be recognized in the US or abroad.


They are very limited in what rights they confer--they may, for instance and most glaringly, leave out the right to adopt.


Additionally, they are not considered by anyone to be of equal merit:
They will not redress the problems we have taking our partners home to holiday dinners and having them accepted on the same footing as our straight siblings' spouses.


As well, I could register my union in Nova Scotia in the afternoon, and that night--without dissolving it, mind you--marry a man. (It goes without saying that this goes only one way. I could not marry a man then register my lesbian partnership without first getting a divorce.)


Rosa Parks didn’t refuse to move to the back of the bus because she thought it was more comfortable at the front, or because she’d get to her destination sooner. She moved up because she knew being relegated to the ack was discriminatory and unjust.


Even if we have RDPs, we still need full and equal marriage rights for all Canadian citizens.


WHEN CAN GAYS IN OTHER PROVINCES MARRY?


Soon, soon. Bill C-38 must pass, or cases must go forward in recalcitrant places.

I THINK MARRIAGE IS A CORRUPT HETEROSEXUAL INSTITUTION.


Thirty percent of heterosexual marriages fall apart in this country, but that means seventy percent don’t. Though marriage between heterosexuals has historically been used to keep women oppressed, that won't be as true among same-sex couples since there is no gender disparity. A woman and a woman or a man and a man get to make up their own sex roles. There aren't any heterosexuals in our beds just because we’re married. If queers can get married, marriage is a queer institution and we can make of it what we want. It'll become part of our culture, not outside our culture.


ISN'T REAL QUEER LIFE ABOUT SEXUAL FREEDOM?


People who practice same-sex sexual alternatives will continue to practice them if there’s queer marriage, just as they do in heterosexual culture. People have always thought the sky would fall if society changed. This is exactly what was said about giving Canadian women the vote, or allowing divorce, or allowing different races to marry, or about the advent of birth control. The sky never did fell. The sky won’t fall when queer marriage is allowed, either. It will be pretty anti-climactic.


BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET MARRIED.


Well, lucky you, because you now have the right not to get married. The decision is no longer imposed on you by the federal government.


Whether or not you want to get married, you should support full equality for all Canadians. Equality means the same rules and rights and obligations for every citizen. Right now queers are marginalized and our relationships are not considered good enough for marriage. In the court case, various religious leaders said that we would ruin marriage if we were allowed to join. Is this the kind of message you want to have perpetuated about gay people? We are good enough to be married and we should have the choice, one way or the other. For us, marriage is a kind of affirmative action program. It is our visibility that erodes hatred against us, and marriage makes us visible.
Lots of gays and lesbians have had miserable times with heterosexual marriage. Our partners have not been invited to family weddings, or, if allowed to attend, have not been introduced as equivalent to a daughter or son-in-law. We have sometimes been told we have to shave our armpits or legs, or wear puffy-sleeved dresses. We have sometimes been forbidden to dance with each other. We have sometimes danced with each other anyhow and have set tongues to wagging.


WON’T I JUST BE APING STRAIGHTS BY MARRYING?


Think how long it took you to come out. We’re not about to turn straight. Every queer we’ve talked to who is married or about to marry loves being gay. Being gay is great. The only thing wrong with it is still, as always, heterosexual reactions to it. We’ll bring our gay traditions and creativity to marriage. We’ll be married queers, not straight-pretenders.

RELIGIOUS VERSUS CIVIL MARRIAGE


Civil marriage is a marriage recognized by the state. All the rights and responsibilities accorded to those who are married are based on civil marriage. Religious institutions have the right to regulate who is married under the rules of their particular religion. This has no bearing on the recognition of civil marriages by the government and is a right enshrined in Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms.


Couples may obtain both a religious marriage and a civil marriage in one ceremony. The cases before the courts sought to enable those churches which support same-sex marriage to issue marriage licences, but did not seek to require churches who oppose equal marriage rights to marry same-sex couples.


WON'T THE SKY FALL?


Hello, Kitty. It's been nearly two years as I write this and it's still holding up there nicely.

WHY MARRIAGE?


Marriage is the most prominent way in which two peoples' romantic love and commitment to each other are recognized and affirmed. Excluding gays and lesbians from the institution of marriage sends a clear message that same-sex couples are somehow not worthy of such recognition and affirmation. On the other hand, including same-sex couples in civil marriage sends a positive message to all Canadians, one that says that regardless of whether you love a man or a woman, that love will be valued, honoured and affirmed.
in the past, when young Canadians discovered that they were gay or lesbian, they also realized that the choice of whether to marry or not was one they could not contemplate. A strong sense of exclusion flowed from this realization. Gays and lesbians felt stressed when asked to celebrate marriages of friends or family members, as they knew that society would not permit them to celebrate in the same way --not for any good reason, but simply because they were gay or lesbian.


HOW WILL MARRIAGE FOR SAME-SEX COUPLES AFFECT ME?


The biggest impact such a change would have will be for gay and lesbian people, who can choose whether they will marry, and for their children who won't feel so outcast. This would have little effect on heterosexuals, as heterosexuals already have the choice to marry. Most people have a gay or lesbian person in their life, either a friend, co-worker or even a family member. You may even have a son, daughter or grandchild who is gay or lesbian. Be kind to them.


WHAT IS MARRIAGE REALLY ABOUT?


Marriage is about love and commitment. Since gay and lesbian couples can have the same level of love and commitment as heterosexual couples, denying them the right to a legal marriage is discriminatory. This is a principle that violates our Constitution, which guarantees equality for all Canadians.


Some members of society justify discrimination against gay and lesbians, arguing that it is different then discrimination based on race or gender. The rhetoric now being used against gay and lesbian marriage (including that it destroys the institution of marriage) has been used in the past against allowing married women to own property, legalizing contraception, inter-racial marriage, and making women the legal equals of their husband. Discrimination was not fair then and it should not be allowed now.


ISN'T MARRIAGE ABOUT CHILDREN?


It is true that many people choose to marry at least in part for the benefit of their children. However, many married couples cannot or choose not to have children and they are not prevented from marrying. Many lesbian and gay couples do have children and allowing them to marry only strengthens these families and better protect these children. Allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry will also be good for families, as it will increase acceptance of gay and lesbian family members.

--updated Feb. 17, 2005

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